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Сребреница - Kospicar - 06-02-2005

Quote:Ujnu,koja je živela sama u soliteru na Grbavici su ubili jer je imala krst oko vrata (javila nam telefonom njena komšinica-muslimanka),jedan ujak sa porodicom je došao kod nas(izvukli smo ga sa Ali-pašinog polja preko UNPROFORA,čija je baza bila preko puta njega...

Soliteri na grbavcii su svi bili pod srpskom vojskom cijeli rat, no nebitno mozda je neki drugi neboder. Ja ti kazem, bilo je svega pa i to sto spominjes, sto bi lago bezveze, ja to priznajem i osudjujem, ali jebem ga niko od vas da prizna obratno. Znam primjera iz moje zgrade odveli su 2 srbina (navodno sinovi bili u rs), ali par komsija(muslimani svi) su brzo reagovali i vratili ih, jer nisu bili uopste. Znaci bilo je toga ne poricem.
Sokol ima snimak na b92 mislim.

Сребреница - херцеговац - 06-02-2005

Quote:To nisam ja rekao, nego ponavljam vlada republike srpske(procitaj opet) znaci taj broj je relevantan sa imenima i prezimenima.

Мислиш на оно када гаутлајтер Педи Ешдаун каже морате да напишете то и то или ћете отићи у три лијепе материне!?

Мислиш ли на то када је три пута враћао људе који су донијели извјештај док није убацио своје који су потписали оно што је он поднио им под нос да потпишу!!!

Име и презиме није релевантно ни са наше ни са ваше стране, ЈА ТИ ПОНАВЉАМ НИКО НИКАДА НЕЋЕ САЗНАТИ ПРАВИ БРОЈ и ово је само једна игра више!!!

Да жао ми је тих побијених људи и осуђујем стрељање везаних људи , али шта доказује овај филм?

Да је био рат?

Да се убијало?

Рекох ти,

нико није узимао заробљенике, сем ако није имао некога блиског за размјену!!!

"Летећи Србин" видиш како си упућен!!!

Када неки муслиман жели да ријеши стамбено питање нађе погодан српски стан улети са екипом баци људе са прозора и јавно преко радиа иде како су пронађени "снајперисти"!!!

Или ако само иду у "пљачку", а не у усељење...

Ја имам примјер када су ми водили старог, нико није изашао да да каже коју, сем баке Радојке, Српкиње коју ту на лицу мјеста замало нису заклали!!!

Quote:sto cini mi se ti potenciras ovdje, stavljas slike te a tema je srebrenica, mogu ti ja pokazati video kasetu kako srpski vojnici iz okoline krajine igraju fudbala-bukvalno- sa ljudskom glavom, ali nije to tema

Да си читао мало боље и пажљивије видио би да ништа ја не правдам, само говорим да се прећутују злочини вршени над Србима, а да се истовремено Срби окривљују за све живо и неживо урађено, криви су и што је Колумбо открио Америку....

И ти сам кажеш да су Срби "погинули", а не убијени сабљама, камама и сјекирама, бацани са прозора...

То је проблем и тако се не иде у боље сутра, него у нови РАТ!!!

Муџахедини нису били само странци, већ и домаћи муслимани!!!

Сребреница - херцеговац - 06-02-2005

From this link:

http://www.freesrpska.org/en/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=88&Itemid=34

because I m from Hercegovina.

Zahum - Hercegovina eparchy

I was mute and I uttered no sound, I was silent even about the good. But my sorrow built up" (Psalm 32,2)

This eparchy was established by Saint Sava in 1219. Humska eparchy, as it was then called, was based in the church of the Holy Virgin in Ston.

During WW2 1941-1945 on the territory of this eparchy 1 church was completely destroyed, and 18 were damaged. Five parish centres were destroyed and four damaged. 12 libraries were destroyed and 21 church archives.

During the war of 1991-1995 on the territory of this eparchy 36 churches were destroyed and 28 damaged. Monastery Zitomislic was destroyed and monastery Zavale severely damaged. 12 parish centres were destroyed and 2 damaged.

Eparchy residence in Mostar together with bishop�s house in Dubrovnik were destroyed. In Mostar, where the head-office of Zahumsko-Hercegovacka eparchy is, everything that belongs to the Serbian Orthodox Church was destroyed. Synod Church of Holy Trinity, built in 1873 was one of the largest churches in the Serbian Orthodox religion. It was bombarded with grenades on 7th and 8th June 1992. On 15th of June 1992 the domes were destroyed and the Church burned. Then the smoke blackened walls were blown up with explosives and this monumental structure turned into a pile of rubble.

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Mostar: Synod Church of Holy Trinity - built in 1863 -1873. Targeted with grenades on 7th and 8th June 1992. On the second day of the church�s, patron saint celebration 15th June the dome was destroyed and the church was burned. The remaining portions of the church were blown up with explosives and leveled to the ground, even the foundations were blown up by the Croatian army.

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The Church-Birth of Holy Virgin - dating back to 16th century. Renovated in 1832. Destroyed to the foundations in 1993. Eparchy square built in the first half of the 19th century with the chapel of Saint Marija Magdalene built in 1861, destroyed with explosives in 1992 by the Croatian armed forces.

Old eparchy centre - destroyed by the Croatian army in 1992. The ancient treasury under the church-the Birth of Holy Virgin, also destroyed in 1992 by the Croats.

Bijela (Konjicka eparchy): chapel in the cemetery - damaged in 1995.

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Bijelo Polje (above Mostar): The Church of the Ascension of The Lord - built in 1865. During second half of 1992 was bombarded with grenades. Interior all burned. Copper roof and beams stolen. On the bell tower the Muslim fanatics (warriors) assembled machinegun nest, while the lower part of the bell tower was turned into a bunker. Parish and Saint Sava centres demolished and burned in 1992

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Blagaj (near Mostar): The Church of Saint Vasilije of Ostrog - built in 1892. During WW2 Iconostasis and sermon articles were damaged, the church books and archives destroyed. During the 1991-95 war the church was bombarded with grenades and burned, everything was destroyed, only the walls were left standing. Parish centre was also targeted and left in ruins.

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Blace: Little church - chapel - destroyed in 1993.

Bogodol: The Church of the holy apostles Saint Peter and Paul - built in 1934. Damaged in the beginning of 1991/92 war, �nd later destroyed

Bradina (above Konjic): The Church of the Ascension of The Lord - built in 1889, renovated in 1938, destroyed in 1992. The newer church-chapel and nearby Serbian houses destroyed.

Brdani (Konjicka diocese): The church - chapel destroyed together with surrounding Serbian homes.

Velicani (Popovo Polje): The Church of holy Archangels. During the WW2 (1941 - 1945) it was damaged by the Croats. Then in 1991-1993 it was damaged together with the surrounding cemetery during the grenade attacks. At the same time the chapel of Serbian new-martyrs and the skeletal monument built in 1990 was severely damaged by the Croatians

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Glavska: The Church of Holy Archdeacon Stefan - built in the 18th century inside the Serbian cemetery between Gornja and Donja Glavska. The church was burned, bells taken off and away, on the outer facade the zealots have left a graffiti that read's: "Here rules ustashs regime", "Pavelic", "nazis", "N.D.H", "HDZ-SDA", drawings of "U" and half-moon. On the door the graffiti reads "To Serbs and dogs entrance forbidden".

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Gornje Hrasno: The Church of Saint John the Baptist - built in 1849. During WW2, its liturgy articles, books and birth records were destroyed. The church was destroyed in 1992 by Croats who, helped themselves to the church bell. The village Hrasno,and monument to Serbs, the victims of 1941 ustashs genocide, were destroyed by same culprits.

Gornja Poplat: The Church of the Holy Archangel Michael - built in 1867. Burned down during the WW2. Rebuilt in 1967. Looted and demolished during 1991 - 1993, used as a bunker and a shield by the Croatian army.

Dobric (near Listica): The Church of the Greatmartyr Kyriaki - built in 1975 -1977 - damaged by rifle bullets, windows smashed during 1992.

Donje Selo (Parish Konjicka): chapel - destroyed

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Dubrovnik: The Church of Annunciation of The Holy Virgin - built in 1877, damaged 3rd April 1992. The church was a number of times hit with grenade thrower projectiles. On 7th and 24th December 1992 the church was subjected to stone throwing, and on 5th September 1993 it was shattered by a bomb. Entry door and part of the facade were damaged.

The Church of The Holy Archangel Michael (in the cemetery grounds Bonin)- built in 1837. Its main door and the parvis blown up with explosives on 27th April 1992.

Church (chapel) of Saint George on Posat - built in 1803 - damaged (roof and the facade) by bomb fragments. Parish centre, which housed a treasury of church valuables with exceptionally significant collection of Icons, was damaged during 1991-1992. The bishop's residence - an old building, across the road from the synod church was burned out to just walls remaining during the above mentioned war period.

Duvno: The Church of Saint Nicholas - built in 1864. During the last war destroyed by ustashs. After rebuilding the church was again broken into and demolished (announcement of 30th June 1997.)

Zaplanik (near Trebinje): The Church of Entrance of The Holy Virgin - rebuilt on the old foundations in 1864. Burned then partly blown up with explosives by the Croatian army who used this place of worship in the period of 1991-1995 for a toilet

Zacula: The Church of the Holy prophet Jeremiah (Saint Paraskeva) - Recently rebuilt on the old foundations. Destroyed to the foundations by Croatian army in 1992.

Zukuci (Parish Konjicka): Chapel - destroyed, �nd a Serbian village annihilated in 1992.

Idbar (Parish Konjicka): Chapel - damaged in 1992.

Klepci: The Church of The Transfiguration of the Lord - built in 1857, in 1941 Iconostasis burned, sermon articles and church birth registry books and archives destroyed, and the church laid waste to. Rebuilt after WW2. In 1992 destroyed to its foundations by the Croatian army. Also, the "Croatian defenders" demolished the monument to the Serbs, victims of the First and Second World War.

Konjic: The Church of Saint Basil the Great - built in 1886, damaged bell tower in June 1992, the rest of the church turned into a public toilet, according to the report (ECMM, � 1/94,49), the church damaged, desecrated, Icons looted, Iconostas damaged, holy sermon items and books burned in front of the church door. The parish residence burned and destroyed in 1992. Cemetery and the chapel damaged.

Kremena (near Opuzina): The Church of Saint Spridona - built anew on old foundations in 1851. Damaged June 1992, then burned. Serbian cemetery damaged that same year.

Lokve (parish of Zitomislicka): newly-built - chapel, destroyed in (1991-1995.)

Ljubuski: The Church of Holy Archangel Michael - built in 1862. Demolished during WW2 by the Croats. In 1991-1992 it was burned then shattered with explosives to its foundations.

Monastery Zitomislic:
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The Church of Annunciation of the Holy Virgin - rebuilt in 1563 on the foundations of the old church. The church was adorned with frescos in living colours 1609. On Thursday 26th June 1941 The Croatian ustashs treacherously murdered the monastery brothers, then threw them into the pit Vidonja. A certain Roman Catholic friar Grga took away the church�s art treasures of once rich monastery treasury. Soon after that the Croatian and German army destroyed the remaining monastery buildings and burned the residential quarters. New monastery residences were built in 1963. The earthly remains of the victims exhumed in 1990 from the pit Vidonja and buried in February 1991, into a marble crypt above the altar of the church monastery Zitomislic. The monastery was burned down, and then blown up with explosives by the Croats mid June 1992. The monastery residences were also demolished with explosives together with the crypt of the WW2 victims of genocide crimes. The executioners � "Croatian defenders"

Monastery zavala: The Church Entrance of Holy Virgin - built in 1514, frescos painted in 1619. The monastery and the church were desecrated and demolished together with the accommodation quarters and the monastery chapel, by the Croatian army in the 1991 - 1995 period.

Metkovic: The Church of Holy Greatmartyr Saint George - constructed in 1849 on the foundations of the older church. During WW2 the liturgy items, church's birth registrar and, the archives were destroyed. The church was burned and then blown up with explosives by Croatian soldiers on 31st May 1992. The Cemetery around the church was badly damaged during the destruction of the church.

Oplicici (near Stolac): The Church - Protection of the Holy Virgin - constructed on old foundations in 1872. The church was completely destroyed together with the parish and St Sava centres (the announcement on 30th June 1997).

Opuzen: The Church of Dormition of The Holy Virgin - built in 1714. Burned by Croats 1991-1993.

Orasje (Popovo Polje): The Church of Saint John the Baptist - hit with grenades during the 1991-1993 period.

Orasje (Trebinjsak Suma): The Church -The Birth of the Holy Virgin (Ascension of The Lord) - severely damaged with grenades by the Croatian army in the 1991 - 1995 period.

Ostrozac (Parish Konjicka): Chapel - damaged

Osanci (near Stolac): The Church of the apostles St Peter and Paul - memorial of Radoslav Habran Miloradovic since 1480. The church was demolished in 1993-1995. The Holy throne was destroyed and razed. Wooden chandelier, the work of wood-carvers from Dabar, all torn up. Iconostas destroyed, icons missing. Holy doorway, of great artistic value stolen. Stone belfry above the entrance to church demolished, both bells stolen. The old cemetery around the church severely damaged.

Poljice ��(popovo polje): Small church of Saint Nicholas - constructed in 19th century hit with grenades by the Croatian army in the period of 1991-1993.

Small church of Saint John the Baptist- from 19th century damaged with grenades by the Croatian army in the period of 1991-1993.

Prebilovci:

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Girls and young women in 1940. Prebilovac girls after completing the course - most ended in Sumanica pit. Out of 70, only 8 survived the masacre.

Monument chapel to Serbian new-martyrs - treacherously murdered by Croatian ustashs during WW2 - constructed in 1990 (unfinished), sanctified in 1991 when their earthly remains were buried in the chapel's crypt. During 1992 Croatian army first hit the chapel - monument with grenades, and then finished it off with mines. Skeletal remains of the Serbian new-martyrs from prebilovac and other areas, that were dug out of the pit Sumarci, Bivolje Brdo and other in 1991 - were burned and the nearby cemetery in Prebilovci bulldozed in 1992. The village chapel together with the whole village destroyed in 1992 by Croats.

Prosjek (platoe of Bobani): The Church of Exaltation of The Honourable Cross - according to unconfirmed reports, damaged by the Croatian army in the period of 1991 -1993.

Ravno: The Church of the Holy 50 - built in 1900 - severely damaged, looted and desecrated.

Rapit: The Church of Exaltation of The Honourable Cross - severely damaged in 1992. That same year in this area the cemetery was damaged.

Raska Gora: The Church of Greatmartyr Pantleleimon - destroyed in the period of 1991 - 1995.

Rascani (near Duvno): The Church of Entrance of the Holy Virgin - constructed in 1891. Plundered and then burned by the Croatian army (1991 - 1995.).

Recica (parish of Capljinska): Small church on the cemetery - destroyed together with the village by the Croats in (1991 -1995)

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Sitnik (in the cemetery): Newly built church - (1973) destroyed by Croats in (1991 - 1995.).

Slivnica (near Trebinje): The Church of Saint Clement - built in 19th century. Subjected to heavy grenade attack by the Croatian army in 1991 - 1993.

Stolac: The Church of the Ascension of The Lord - on the old monastery grounds of 1870 a new church was built. The church building stands intact, but it was burned inside. The Holy Throne built of stone was smashed into smithereens in an exceptional fury. Croats say that it was done by the Muslim zealots while they were digging inside and outside the church looking for gold.

Trebinje: The Church of Transfiguration of The Lord built 1908 - damaged by grenade fragments in the 1991 - 1993 period.

Trijebanj: The Church of Saint Nicholas - built in 1533. Renovated by Padoje Hreban. The church was destroyed with explosives in the end of 1996 or the beginning of 1997 - frescos, dating back to first half of the 16th century were destroyed.

Hum (near Trebinje): The Church - Birth of The Holy Virgin - built in 1750. According to the report of 26th May 1993, the church was severely damaged with the grenades of the Croatian army. The village has also been destroyed by the constant grenade attacks from the Croatian armed forces.

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Cavas (Popovo Polje): Monument with the cross - erected to the Orthodox Serb murdered in this village on the 11th of August 1941 was destroyed.

Capljina: The Church of - The Ascension of Christ - built in 1991, severely damaged and burned from inside, so that the top of belfry collapsed. One grenade (from the direction of Ljubusko towards Tasovcici - from the Croat positions side) struck the belfry at the church roof height, which was then riddled with smaller projectiles severely damaging the roof of the church. The altar and the icons were burned and everything else was smashed except the Holy throne.

Cvaljina: The Church of the greatmartyr Saint George - built in 19th century. Damaged during WW2 and again in 1991-1993 period, when it was demolished. The village was burned and destroyed at the same time.

Celebic: The Church of Dormition of The Holy Virgin - built in 1867; transferred in 1960 because of Jablanicko dam. The church was desecrated and looted during 1993 - 1994, and large portion of valuable church items was destroyed according to the report (ECMM, � 3/95, 20) this was committed by the local population of the opposing side. The bishop responsible for the area reported on 22. 09. 1969 That the church stands with its doors smashed, interior of the church demolished, icons were stabbed through with knifes and riddled with bullets. The cemetery was desecrated and partly destroyed in 1996.

Dzep (Parish Konjicka): Small church (chapel) - in the Serbian Orthodox cemetery demolished in (1991 - 1995).

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Scenica (platoe Bobani): The Church of The Holy Virgin - built in 19th century, demolished by the Croatian army during (1991 - 1995).

Сребреница - Kospicar - 06-02-2005

Quote:Мислиш на оно када гаутлајтер Педи Ешдаун каже морате да напишете то и то или ћете отићи у три лијепе материне!?
Мислиш ли на то када је три пута враћао људе који су донијели извјештај док није убацио своје који су потписали оно што је он поднио им под нос да потпишу!!!

Vracao je jer je prvi izvjestaj navodio oko 200 ubijenih, a dotad u srebrenici vec ukopano 1.372 zrtve??! A ostali dio o pediju..daj ba..

Да је био рат?

Када неки муслиман жели да ријеши стамбено питање нађе погодан српски стан улети са екипом баци људе са прозора и јавно преко радиа иде како су пронађени "снајперисти"!!!

Или ако само иду у "пљачку", а не у усељење...

Cista propaganda iz vasih medija, pa taman ce neko u ratu zivjeti na 20tom spratu u neboderu??!! Na 3 zgrace(ako si bio u sa znas i koje) su nasli snajperiste i bacili gdje su ih nasli.

Муџахедини нису били само странци, већ и домаћи муслимани!!!

Oko 90% su bili stranci. Komandanti tih mudzahdina su u hagu i nek odgovaraju ako su krivi-ocigledno-dok svoje velicate na sav glas iako su vise nego krivi.

Opet ostavljas slike crkvi sto su ustase srusile, pitao sam te za sarajevo i rs a ti mi odgovaras slikama drugim, grad preko 1000godina u opsadi(najduze u historiji) ali crkvu niko dirao nije, niti sinagogu, katedralu, za razliku u rs.
Ne bih dalje u raspravu, odosmo predaleko, tema je ionako druga, jebiga nekom rat nekom brat, uvijek je tako bilo, rat nikom dobra nije donio(pojedincima da), mnogo se zla ucinilo, nazalost nekome jos ne idu u glavu(nece da idu) neke stvari, ali eto.Uvijek ce postojati 2 istine.

Сребреница - Kospicar - 06-02-2005

...godina*=dana...

Сребреница - херцеговац - 06-02-2005

Quote:Opet ostavljas slike crkvi sto su ustase srusile, pitao sam te za sarajevo i rs a ti mi odgovaras slikama drugim, grad preko 1000godina u opsadi(najduze u historiji) ali crkvu niko dirao nije, niti sinagogu, katedralu, za razliku u rs.

1. град није био у опсади него су се водиле уличне борбе, био је подјељен град који није био са свих страна у окружењу!!!

Пријатељу опет покушаваш да протуриш неке флоскуле!!!

2. стављам слике твоје педерације, пардон федерације, на којима су цркве, манастири...које сте рушили Ви и усташе заједно, "92. године прије вашега сукоба!!!

3. нисте смјели да дирате те објекте јер су били под директном заштитом УМПРОФОР-а!!!

4. Spiritual Genocide

Reminding his disciples of the difficulties that await them in this world, Our Lord Jesus Christ said: �You will have many misfortunes; Beware of people; they have persecuted me and they will persecute you.� (John 16, 33; Mathew 10, 17; John 15, 20). The apostles spoke of those misfortunes to the faithful in their epistles, explaining that in life there can be two sufferings: first suffering is on the road of God�s justice, and the second on the road of injustice (Prophet Elijah 4, 15). �If it is God�s will, it is better to suffer doing good deeds, than doing bad deeds.� (Prophet Elijah 4,15-16; 3, 17).

Starting from 1941. until the present day, destruction of Serb religious and cultural treasures has hardly stopped. During the WW2, apart from suffering immense war casualties of more than a million Serbs dead, there was also an enormous loss of historic religious and cultural treasures. More than 400 Serbian Orthodox churches were destroyed.

Attempts by the enemies of the Serbian people to destroy the very Serbian nation, and all that belongs to it, have reached their peak in the last decade. Besides Croats, Muslim converts and Kosovo Siptars who have their hands covered by Serb blood during the twentieth century, they were now joined in atrocities by the bloodthirsty NATO, an alliance led by the satanic leadership. They, (NATO) graciously and openly support and justify the attacks of the Siptar terrorists and separatists on the remaining Serbian population and everything that is Serb. It is by those means that NATO evildoers directly participate in ethnic cleansing of Serbian Kosovo and Metohija.

Number of destroyed or damaged Serbian Orthodox churches and parish centers in the civil war that was forced upon Serbs (1991 � 2000) on the areas of Croatia, Bosnia and Hercegovina and Kosovo and Metohija.

Parish
Churches
Parish Centers

Destroyed
Damaged
Destroyed
Damaged

Banja Luka
2
3
2
-

Bihac-Petrovac
26
68
10
26

Dabrobosanska
23
13
11
3

Zahumsko-Hercegovacka
36
28
12
2

Zvornik-Tuzla
38
60
31
19

Zagreb-Ljubljana
9
29
5
7

Osijekpolje-Baranja
14
35
6
8

Slavonija
39
41
25
15

Gornji Karlovac
11
45
8
14

Dalmatia
14
45
1
13

Total
212
367
111
107

Since the arrival of the KFOR forces on the region of Kosovo and Metohija only in the period since June to October 1999. 76 churches and monasteries were destroyed or desecrated. More ... http://www.kosovo.com/default.htm
Kosovo and Metochien - map churches and monasteries
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"Aren�t those committing lawlessness going to become wiser, they are eating my people, the way they eat bread, they don�t recognize the Lord?" (Psalm 14,14)

It was difficult to endure all the horrors of war, but it was endured. The Son of God said unto His people: �Fear not, I am the First and the Last and Living; I was dead and here I am live for the eternity� Be faithful till death and I will give him the wreath of life.� (Otk 2, 1; 1, 17-1.

Note: The amount of detail is enormous and gathering of the same is arduous. The subsections (as well as the whole site) are therefore under constant construction. Something like this should have been undertaken and organized by the government (through designated groups etc.) but since in last 7-8 years they had more pressing commitments i e, (Select-impecs, cigarettes, petroleum, and purchase of Audi cars�), we have had to take this hard toil to task.

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На овим линковима можеш да пронађеш и увјериш се да нисте штедили наше вјерске објекте!!!

5.Maj-Gen. Lewis MacKenzie: We bombed the wrong side?

Five years ago our television screens were dominated by pictures of Kosovo-Albanian refugees escaping across Kosovo's borders to the sanctuaries of Macedonia and Albania. Shrill reports indicated that Slobodan Milosevic's security forces were conducting a campaign of genocide and that at least 100,000 Kosovo-Albanians had been exterminated and buried in mass graves throughout the Serbian province. NATO sprung into action and, in spite of the fact no member nation of the alliance was threatened,
commenced bombing not only Kosovo, but the infrastructure and population of Serbia itself -- without the authorizing United Nations resolution so revered by Canadian leadership, past and present.

Those of us who warned that the West was being sucked in on the side of an extremist, militant, Kosovo-Albanian independence movement were dismissed as appeasers. The fact that the lead organization spearheading the fight for independence, the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), was universally
designated a terrorist organization and known to be receiving support from Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda was conveniently ignored.

The recent dearth of news in the North American media regarding the increase in violence in Kosovo compared to the comprehensive coverage in the
European press strongly suggests that we Canadians don't like to admit it when we are wrong. On the contrary, selected news clips on this side of the ocean continue to reinforce the popular spin that those dastardly Serbs are at it again. A case in point was the latest crisis that exploded on March 15.

The media reported that four Albanian boys had been chased into the river Ibar in Mitrovica by at least two Serbs and a dog (the dog's ethnic affiliation
was not reported).Three of the boys drowned and one escaped to the other side. Immediately, thousands of Albanians mobilized and concentrated in the area of the divided city.

Attacks on Serbs took place throughout the province resulting in an estimated 30 killed and 600 wounded. Thirty Serbian Christian Orthodox churches and monasteries were destroyed, more than 300 homes were burnt to the ground and six Serbian villages cleansed of their occupants. One hundred and fifty international peacekeepers were injured.

Totally ignored in North America were the numerous statements from impartial sources that said there was no incident between the Serbs, the dog and the Albanian boys. NATO Police spokesman Derek Chappell stated on March 16 that it was "definitely not true" that the boys had been chased into the river by Serbs.

Chappell went on to say that the surviving boy had told his parents that they had entered the river alone and that three of his friends had been swept away by the current. Admiral Gregory Johnson, the overall NATO commander, further stated that the ensuing clashes were "orchestrated and well-planned ethnic cleansing" by the Kosovo-Albanians.

Those Serbs forced to leave joined the 200,000 who had been cleansed from the province since NATO's "humanitarian" bombing in 1999. The '"cleansees" have become very effective "cleansers."

In the same week a number of individuals posing as Serbs ambushed and killed a UN policeman and his local police partner. During the firefight one of
them was wounded which caused an immediate switch from Serbian to Albanian as he screamed, "I've been hit"!

The UN pursued the attackers and tracked them to an Albanian-run farm where they discovered weapons and the wounded Albanian who had died from his wounds. Four Albanians were arrested. Once again, the ambush had been reported in the United States but not the follow-up which clearly indicated yet another orchestrated provocation by the Albanian terrorists.

Kosovo is administered by the UN, the very organization many Canadians have indicated they would like to see take over from the United States in Iraq. The fact the UN cannot order its civilian employees to go or stay anywhere -- they have to volunteer -- combined with recent history that saw the UN abandon Iraq after a single brutal attack on their compound in Baghdad and the reality that Kosovo, under the organization's administration, is a
basket case, disqualifies it from consideration for such a role.

Since the NATO/UN intervention in 1999, Kosovo has become the crime capital of Europe. The sex slave trade is flourishing. The province has become an invaluable transit point for drugs en route to Europe and North America. Ironically, the majority of the drugs come from another state "liberated"
by the West, Afghanistan. Members of thedemobilized, but not eliminated, KLA are intimately involved in organized crime and the government. The UN police arrest a small percentage of those involved in criminal activities and turn them over to a judiciary with a revolving door that responds to bribes and coercion.

The objective of the Albanians is to purge all non-Albanians, including the international community's representatives, from Kosovo and ultimately link up with mother Albania thereby achieving the goal of "Greater Albania."

The campaign started with their attacks on Serbian security forces in the early 1990s and they were successful in turning Milosevic's heavy-handed
response into worldwide sympathy for their cause. There was no genocide as claimed by the West -- the 100,000 allegedly buried in mass graves turned out to be around 2,000, of all ethnic origins, including those killed in combat during the war itself.
The Kosovo-Albanians have played us like a Stradivarius.

We have subsidized and indirectly supported their violent campaign for an ethnically pure and independent Kosovo.We have never blamed them for being the perpetrators of the violence in the early '90s and we continue to portray them as the
designated victim today in spite of evidence to the contrary.

When they achieve independence with the help of our tax dollars combined with those
of bin Laden and al-Qaeda, just consider the message of encouragement this sends to other terrorist-supported independence movements around the world.

Funny how we just keep digging the hole deeper!

(Maj-Gen. Lewis MacKenzie, now retired, commanded UN troops during the Bosnian civil war of 1992)

National Post (Canada) April 06, 2004

Сребреница - херцеговац - 06-02-2005

Ко је од њих у Хагу?

Шериф Патаковић, командант Бригаде, Махмут еф. Каралић - емир, верски поглавар Бригаде, Алија Изетбеговић - почасни командант, Акиб Махмуљин, командант 3. корпуса АБиХ и Халил Брзина, последњи ратни командант 7. муслиманске бригаде.

Незим Халиловић - Мудерис

Quote:Cista propaganda iz vasih medija, pa taman ce neko u ratu zivjeti na 20tom spratu u neboderu??!! Na 3 zgrace(ako si bio u sa znas i koje) su nasli snajperiste i bacili gdje su ih nasli.

Био сам у СА, кажеш само три!?

Да то није пропаганда ваших медија!!!

Нико и није рекао да би живили, већ да би ријешили стамбено питање, значи оно "ЗАУЗЕО Идриз тај и тај" на вратима стана...

А прије тога увијек неки Србин добије "крила"...

Visoki oficir muslimanske vojske Džemal Najetović, početkom rata komandant „Teritorijalne odbrane" u Čapljini (kasnije komandant Prve zeničke brigade iz koje će se razviti nekoliko „jedinica džihada") u junu 1992. javno je apostrofirao učešće vjerskih službenika u ratu.

Svoj puni udio u borbi za oslobađanje Hercegovine – kazao je Najetović na konferenciji za novinare 18. juna 1992. u Zenici – dalo je sveštenstvo. Katolički svećenik je uspješno rukovao puškomitraljezom i bavio se miniranjem i razminiranjem, a jedan hodža je uspješno savladao rukovanje „zoljom".3 Naša riječ, Zenica, 22. 6. 1992, str. 3. „Katolički svećenik" je iz sasvim druge priče, ali ga Najetović pominje tek da bi njegovo prisustvo dunulo pod krila džihadom inače nadahnutom „islamskom svećeniku".

Овај текст ти преносим да видиш да су по Херцеговини рушили, палили, убијали и Твоји, а не само усташе...

На прошлом коментару сам грешком пренио текст везан за КиМ!!!

Сребреница - херцеговац - 06-02-2005

Quote:Na vestima je receno da je haskom tuzilastvu snimak prosledio Fond za humanitarno pravo.

Ko je snimao i zasto, ko su ubijeni i zasto su ubijeni, da li je fotomontaza itd. to ce se sve pokazati , a posto nema dovoljno informacija, ne treba gubiti vreme oko pretpostavki.

Snimak se neocekivano prikazuje na sudjenju Milosevicu (svedok Stevanovic je lepo rekao:zasto pustate na mom svedocenju kada dobro znate da to nema nikakve veze sa mnom niti sa jedinicama kojima sam ja komandovao), odmah sutradan njih desetak pronalaze i hapse (vidi se da je sve isplanirano), sada ce biti jos price o "srpskim zlocinima" na svim medijima, onda ce Tadic ici u Srebrenicu na poklonjenje "zrtvama koje su srpski zlocinci pooubijali" i na kraju ce - UHAPSITI GENERALA MLADICA!
Usrani Marovic je danas izjavio da "buducnost evropske Drzavne zajednice"( SCG, drugim recima) zavisi od izrucenja Mladica. Karla del Ponte je delovala prilicno zadovoljno itd.

Najogavniji mi je Tadic koji kaze otprilike: svi smo videli na ovm snimku, ono sto je komisija Vlade RS vec utvrdila. Prvo, videli smo ubijanje 6 ljudi. Drugo, komisija je pod pritiskom Pedija Esdauna utvrdila da je bilo zlocina nad muslimana, ali nigde u izvestaju ne stoji broj, iako je posle Esdaun na sav glas govorio o brojci od valjda 7.800 zrtava. Znaci, videli smo ubijanje 6 ljudi, i to znaci da su Srbi pobili i 7 ili 8 hiljada muslimana.
Skrenuo sam sa teme, ali me je toliko iznerviralo ovakvo idiotsko ponasanje. Najbolji je bio (musliman) Rasim Ljajic koji je izjavio da ne moze Srbija biti odgovorna , nego samo pojedinci sa imenima i prezimenima.
Posle dekalarcije koje su podneli Korac i Micicka, i Radikali podnose neku deklaraciju o zlocinima, ne znam samo ocemu se tu konkretno radi...itd.itd.

Davinic najavljuje mogucu oruzanu pobunu Siptara...Sve bolje od boljeg...

Ocekuje nas VRUCE LETO

Сребреница - bojan - 06-02-2005

Quote:Soliteri na grbavcii su svi bili pod srpskom vojskom cijeli rat, no nebitno mozda je neki drugi neboder.

Onaj soliter pored Miljacke u blizini mosta pored kojeg je bila cvećara u blizini...iliti prvi most sa periferije ili zadnji most od centra,kako hoćeš...Mislim da je u blizini i Veterinarski fakultet...

Ako misliš da se ne zna šta je ko i kako i kome i kada radio u Sarajevu za vreme rata,onda grdno grešiš,ipak je to mali grad gde se svi znaju i veruj da će svako platiti kad-tad.

A što se tiče Srebrenice,već sam ti rekao i podvukao da su jedini ratni zločinci oni koji su poturali sopstveni narod (stare,žene i decu) da im prave živi štit da se izvuku iz okruženja.

Da ne pominjem Srbe iz Mostara,onog starog dela ,i "komšije" koje su ubile tetku mog teče 1992,a "ćetnikuša" je imala 87 godina i živela je sama.

Сребреница - Kospicar - 06-02-2005

Quote:1. град није био у опсади него су се водиле уличне борбе, био је подјељен град који није био са свих страна у окружењу!!!
Пријатељу опет покушаваш да протуриш неке флоскуле!!!
2. стављам слике твоје педерације, пардон федерације, на којима су цркве, манастири...које сте рушили Ви и усташе заједно, "92. године прије вашега сукоба!!!
3. нисте смјели да дирате те објекте јер су били под директном заштитом УМПРОФОР-а!!!

Slazem se, ali opet sam te pitao drugo, no nema veze.
Samo stavka pod brojem 1..nadam se da se salis, ako si bio u Sa, jedini izlaz iz grada je bio kroz tunel ispod piste ili preko piste koju su drzali srbi na pocetku rata, ali kasnije dosao un. Kako mislis nije bio u okruzenju??